I GUESS IM CONFUSED PLEASE HELP

[racemysol]

Originally posted by yokohamatyre:
Whats wrong with the Z3? and i thought the eclipse was a tuner worthy car? i guess thats why they blew it up in FF.

-t-

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Z3(in the above form) is a DOG! It has a 1.9l 4Cyl... it produces 138hp and 133 ft lbs of tq. And weights 2700lbs!!! Sooo thats 22less hp, and 300 more lbs than a Vtec del Sol, for twice (or three times the price???)

If you're talking about getting a 2.8l, its quite a bit better... and has the same engine as the 328i. The 2.8l is a pretty good engine, that puts down 193hp, and 206lbs of tq. These cars are great, if you can find a 328is with the sport suspension they are awesome!

Now a '95(3.0l) or '96(3.2l) M3 pack 240hp, and 236lbs of tq. Match that with perfect 50/50 weight distribution, and world class handling (Car and Driver, best handling car at ANY price for 95-99).... and for 12k you have yourself an road worthy race car.

In the later 90s they also made the M-roadster which was the M version of the Z3... but with a mild wide body kit on the rear fenders. This also had the 3.2l with 240hp, but expect to pay in up to the high teens, and 20k mark.

Really.. a GREAT bang for your buck car is the '95 M3.... ODBI so modding it has high gains. Usually can be found hovering around the 10k mark at around 150k miles.

Thomas, I'm picking up my '98 M3 tomorrow in Denver... when I get it home I'll give you a call, and we'll take it for a drive. Then we'll go test drive a 1.9l Z3, and you made the decision on what would be a better spend 10~12k!!

[yokohamatyre]

That sok im pretty busy this weekend...ill take your word on it since you are the resident bmw expert. I just wanted to know why...and the information you provided is convincing.

-t-

Originally posted by racemysol:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by yokohamatyre:
Whats wrong with the Z3? and i thought the eclipse was a tuner worthy car? i guess thats why they blew it up in FF.

-t-

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Z3(in the above form) is a DOG! It has a 1.9l 4Cyl... it produces 138hp and 133 ft lbs of tq. And weights 2700lbs!!! Sooo thats 22less hp, and 300 more lbs than a Vtec del Sol, for twice (or three times the price???)

If you're talking about getting a 2.8l, its quite a bit better... and has the same engine as the 328i. The 2.8l is a pretty good engine, that puts down 193hp, and 206lbs of tq. These cars are great, if you can find a 328is with the sport suspension they are awesome!

Now a '95(3.0l) or '96(3.2l) M3 pack 240hp, and 236lbs of tq. Match that with perfect 50/50 weight distribution, and world class handling (Car and Driver, best handling car at ANY price for 95-99).... and for 12k you have yourself an road worthy race car.

In the later 90s they also made the M-roadster which was the M version of the Z3... but with a mild wide body kit on the rear fenders. This also had the 3.2l with 240hp, but expect to pay in up to the high teens, and 20k mark.

Really.. a GREAT bang for your buck car is the '95 M3.... ODBI so modding it has high gains. Usually can be found hovering around the 10k mark at around 150k miles.

Thomas, I'm picking up my '98 M3 tomorrow in Denver... when I get it home I'll give you a call, and we'll take it for a drive. Then we'll go test drive a 1.9l Z3, and you made the decision on what would be a better spend 10~12k!!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

[yokohamatyre]

Here are a couple more cars...M3 and FF Civic, the seats on the M3 are a little worn and the price is above what you are looking to spend but i guess thats what aftermarket seats are for. As for the civic, it has a nice kit and paint job but you gotta wonder about people who use Fast and Furious as a sales pitch.

M3

Fast and Furious Civic